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Incidence Rises in Countries After Mercury Removed from Vaccines
- From Dr Bryna Siegel
By Dr. Bryna Siegel - CCLP
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themerisol
ever heard of themerisol? it is 49 percent mercury and still contained in six vaccines as well as the flu shot-if it contains even small amounts after post production "removal" they can call it mercury free-but really its not
- heidi1439 July 25, 2008 10:56PM
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It's spelled thimerosal Doc
The “no causal link” study most frequently cited is from Denmark. Denmark banned thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative, in 1992 after health authorities realized the excessive amount of mercury exposure occurring through the use of thimerosal-containing vaccines. Children from Denmark received only a third of the number of thimerosal-containing vaccines as children in the United States under a vaccine schedule that did not mirror that of the United States. The apples to oranges comparison is further muddied by the Denmark study criteria that changed mid-stream: in the years prior to the ban, the researchers only counted autistic inpatients, but in 1995, they started counting autistic outpatients as well. As outpatients exceeded inpatients by 13 to 1, one would expect a minimum increase in cases of autism by a factor of 13. This was not the case.
- MikeWag
July 28, 2008 1:27PM
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Bogus Study Design
The Danish study was produced with money from vaccine maker, the Serum Statens Institut. They dumped outpatients into the study to provide a false rise in autism cases. Previously, only inpatients were counted.
- tmaxredalia
August 12, 2008 4:37PM
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That's a novel way of describing Statens Serum Institut
Statens Serum Institut is a state-owned company, which, by law, is not only required to make these vaccinations (and sell them to a fixed price), but also to make studies of the effect of vaccinations. So, there is hardly anything surprising in them funding the study, since they are required to look into these things.
Since it's a state owner company, it's not governed by the same financial requirements as other medical companies are. Rather, the costs of running it, is considered part of the general universal health care costs in Denmark.
Also, what would be the point of making a "false rise" in autism cases? It's not like they could be held liable or anything, as the status of limitation was passed, as I've explained here:
http://oracknows.blogspot.com/2005/08/dispatches-from-road-part-ii-danish.html
- Kristjan Wager
December 3, 2008 12:49PM
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Missing the point
As reported at the time the Hvid Study was first published, 80% of the operating revenues for SSI came from the production of vaccine toxoids containing thimerosal for export. So you get into a situation where an entity charged with producing a mandated product makes one version for domestic comsumption and a second product for sale to other nations. This creates a significant liability scenario for which Danish statutes of limitation would NOT apply, since Danish law only governs Danish citizens, and not citizens from other nations who are harmed by products produced by an arm of the Danish government.
Aside from that, the Hvid Study and the Madsen Studies were NOT undertaken by SSI as a matter of course, or by the Danish govt., but at the request of the CDC for the specific task of exonnerating vaccination from the autism epidemic. There can be no mistaking that these studies were carefully designed for that specific intent when you see that very obvious flaws in design that existed (change to dataset in Hvid, statistical manipulation in Madsen).
- Dad Fourkids March 26, 2009 1:26PM
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What would be the point of making a "false rise" in autism cases?
Profit and deniability.
- tmaxredalia
August 21, 2009 1:19AM
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No reference for you assertion?
In the absence of an independant link to the data which supports your assetion it is difficult to comment upon it. I will say that I do not believe that many people think that thimerosal is the ONLY trigger to autism , so other aspects of vaccination may also be at play which can cause increases in incidence. Denmark (specifically) added the MMR to their vaccination schedule at around the same time they eliminated most of the thimerosal, so it is possible that the MMR "made up" for the cases of autism prevented by removing thimerosal.
There is also the question of degree. One thing that many people have not discussed and indeed may not have even considered is that thimerosal may take someone who is very high-functioning autistic or Asperger's and cause them to regress into someone with low-functioning autism.
- Dad Fourkids March 26, 2009 1:19PM
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