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America has become haunted by the specter of deadly school shootings. As we all work to prevent further tragedy, some are advocating allowing students to carry concealed firearms as a means of defense. But would such measures really make college campuses safer?
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Guns in Schools are Saving Lives Overseas
- From Gun Owners of America
By Gun Owners of America - A No-Compromise Gun Rights Organization
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So have an armed guard!!!!
High school students are young. High school students might be in a phase where becoming an adult involves them being exposed to high hormone concentrations, making them rebellious, impulsive and so on, as everyone who ever dealt with teenagers will confirm.
If you want to make schools safer, deploy armed guards. Why do students who inherently are istable (puberty) and are fighting (mostly verbally) among each other suited to carry guns in situations where one impulsive reaction of (we have to recall they are still children) a child could easily get another kid killed!
Think of the impact for parents and students resulting from one situation where the student making a deadly mistake might not be able to grasp the consequences and will ruin his/her and many others' lives!!
- zebrab July 30, 2008 3:04AM
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Police at schools.
Here in Arizona, and I'm sure, many other states, most high schools have several police officers assigned to their schools. This is to show a law enforcement presence to protect against gang violence and, possibly, against terrorist attacks.
But what about colleges and universities? Arizona State University, for example, has their own police force; but they can't be everywhere at once. And college students are all, legally, adults. Granted, most are not legally able to bear arms, but those who are are far beyond puberty and (usually) are not subject to impulsive reactions. What also needs to be considered, is that those who are of legal age to carry a gun, are protect by the second amendment. So why should our personal liberties be thrown away?
- Geekrock
August 19, 2008 6:56PM
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what the
"[college students] are not subject to impulsive reactions."
this is demonstrably false.
- reckoner
August 27, 2008 11:45AM
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uhhh...
Geekrock said they were "not...impulsive...".
- sandcrystal September 3, 2008 10:03PM
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read citation marks
Reckoner said that what geekrock said was false... just by the way.
So, whoever says college students are (in contrast to high school students) not subject to impulsive reactions has lost any touch with reality.
I have seen too many college kids get into fist-fights from one istant to the next (sometimes but not always under the influence) over some bs to know better...
- zebrab September 4, 2008 12:18AM
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my mistake
yeah, i reread it afterward and said whoops.
no, but CHL holders recognize that they will be held to a higher legal standard than non-CHL holders, and act accordingly.
- sandcrystal September 5, 2008 12:11PM
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HS vs college carry
Who said anything about high school students? Concealed handgun permits require the bearers to be at least 21 years of age.
- sandcrystal September 3, 2008 10:02PM
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Armed guards are the first targets.
Having an armed guard means he will be the first to go. If someone wants to do serious damage, they either do it in a place where they will meet no resistance, or they are doing it in a place where they can control the enviornment by eliminating the only knwon threat. By allowing CCW or CHP holders (usually 21 and older, not students) to carry at school, you do two things. 1 - you eliminate the safe zone that would have otherwise existed FOR the bad guy. 2 - You take his control of the situation away, by eliminating his knowlege of those that could resist and end his rampage earlier than expected.
Although an armed guard is better than nothing, having armed and trained individuals is the better choice.
- Machew
September 4, 2008 2:39AM
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