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Global Warming's Real Threat is Taxation
- From FrontPage Magazine
By FrontPage Magazine
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Proof of Climate Change
Please list all the input variables that can affect climate. List them in order of probable significance.
How does this number of input variables effect the statistical validity of the output of your climate change computer model?
Have you tested this model on out of sample data?
Can you predict the temperature at a particular GPS coordinate on a particular day in the near future (1 to 5 years)?
Can you predict the sea level change at a particular GPS coordinate on a particular day in the near future (1 to 5 years)?
Can you prove these were caused by co2?
- rfpzzzzz
May 13, 2009 6:35PM
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far to many variables
There are far to many variables to calculate temperature to that level of precision. What we can see are trends over time... and the overall impact.
How do you explain the suddenly shrinking ice cap (and the appearance of the Northwest passage)? The changing acidity of the oceans?
CO2 does cause increased temperatures, and we are on track to put as much CO2 into the atmosphere as there was when the Industrial Revolution started... how else do you explain the sharp spike in temperature observed over the past few decades?
- MrBook
August 1, 2009 9:40AM
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variables and computer models
If ,as you say there are far too many variables, to predict future temps why do you insist any changes are due to CO2 to the exclusion of all others? Also if the statistical validity of the computer models that tell us the oceans will rise and the temperature will increase is in question why should I listen to those that make dire predictions from the use of computer models.
I have read many log books of early explorers and one that I remember was a group of sailors from England , I believe,that went to the Arctic region with enough supplies and the intent of getting frozen in during the winter and then during spring thaw continue with their exploration rather than heading south or home for the winter. The problem was that the place where they were frozen in for the winter never thawed in the spring or summer and they all perished. The ship and its log book had been discovered on a latter expedition by other explorers. The point is that climates have changed for many reasons throughout history.
In looking at the original Vostok ice sample data I noticed that they adjusted their original dating by a couple of thousand years after a bit of thinking. I am persuadable but much of what I hear seems more like demagoguery to shake down taxpayers rather than scientific certainty.
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climate change trends
It is a widely accepted fact that climate changes over time. Through natural selection, species adapt, some go extinct, and new ones are formed. However, at the current, unprecedented rate of climate change , habitats will be destroyed too fast, and species will not be able to adapt, resulting in a mass extinction. IT IS NOT NATURAL FOR THE CLIMATE TO BE CHANGING AT SUCH AN EXPONENTIAL RATE. The loss of these species will result in the loss of vital natural services, such as nutrient recycling, as well as the loss of potentially new medicinal compounds found in plants and animals we have not even discovered yet!
An abrupt, mass extinction of species will result in a dramatic alteration of the lifestyles of our future generations. The effects of this severe environmental degradation will last for thousands of years.
So, would you rather have your taxes raised a miniscule amount each year, or condemn our children and future generations to a world of turmoil and struggle, and decreased beauty because of the beautiful ecosystems and organisms that will be destroyed?
Do some research and you'll find global warming is just one of the hundreds of proven environmental problems with devastating consequences for humans and the world itself.
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check this out and get back to me
long view of ice core
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/09/hockey-stick-observed-in-noaa-ice-core-data /
ice more likely than fire
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/12/11/accuweather-forecaster-climate-change-it-s-ice-not-fire-you-re-going-be-w
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dad said...
When i waa a wee little tyke my father used to say son if the goverment ever learns how to tax the air, where all in trouble. If people do not call their elected officals now to tell them I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE GOVERMENT TO CONFISCATE ANY MORE OF MY WAGES.Well if they don't call we all will be paying more, so be it, You can't fix stupid!
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tax air
The government will be taxing air if we the people dont do someting about it.
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