Evil Must be Eliminated
America's motto should always be: never surrender; never give-up. It is always easy to recognize true evil and the U.S. should never comply with its demands. However, under strict circumstances and with a clear aim of removing evil, the U.S. should meet with its enemies.
Take Nazi Germany as one example. Should the U.S. have negotiated the Munich Agreement? The answer is absolutely no. This was a grave mistake of Chamberlain that caused 55 million victims and the ruin of Europe.
More contemporarily, consider Iran. From its first days it has dealt in deceit, declaring its readiness to sit on the negotiating table and accept international demands, then refusing to implement agreements until its nuclear project reaches "the point of no return." Exactly like North Korea and Nazi Germany.
However, since the U.S. is not alone in global politics, it cannot act like a solitary world policeman. Accordingly, the U.S. should only sit at the negotiating table with clear and sharp demands. The framework of this negotiation must be a very strict "either ... or" and the punishment ladder, if not complied with, begins with international isolation and economic bans.
This is not a negotiation between equal parties but a dictating of terms, only softening if and only if its objectives are achieved. As President Kennedy's said during the Cuban missile crisis: be ready to negotiate but never give-up your demands, never appease, never surrender.
Still, at the end of the process, evil must be eliminated. It is the American responsibility, no matter how hard and exhausting the road may be.
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Considering another country, full of innocent people, and of a different point of view "evil" simply because they are our enemies is a juvenile mindset. Simply because someone is your enemy does not make them evil. Neither is any issue black and white, right and wrong, when it comes to things like war and nations. To pretend that the U.S. is always right and its enemies are pure evil is the worst sort of nationalism.
No it should not sit down next to or negotiate with EVIL. Would God negotiate with the Devil? Islamic Totalitarianism - the biggest EVIL and threat in this world to date is completely irrational - in fact I would consider the people in Iran being held against their will - being denied basic individual rights - and would not consider Iran a sovereign country. USA should announce what it stands for and what it does not. If Iran does not agree - fine. If it does not agree and then announces that it wants to blow us off this earth, then that's an initiation of force - and we have the right to blow the bejesus out of them. Its not about compromise or consensus with EVIL - its about kicking Evil's ass then burning the body and stomping on the ashes.
Ignore the rest of these people selfish, they clearly don't know what they're talking about. You're absolutely right. If a country holds people against their will, denies them basic individual rights (right to a fair trial, right to free speech , right to freedom) they should not be considered a sovereign country. They need to be invaded.
Just one question. Since we're holding people against their will in Guantanamo (not even counting the fact that we have the highest per-capita prison population), Denying them their right to a fair trial, their right to speak (not to mention Bush's "free speech zones" for his own citizens) and torture them, doesn't that give others the right to invade us?
Also, whose definition of evil do we use? Pretty much every religion & culture has its own definition. Who should decide these things? Also, you seem to not really like the government of Iran. With that in mind maybe we shouldn't have overthrown the previous democratically elected government or sold huge piles of weapons to both Iran and Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war . Maybe if we hadn't done these things Iran would have a different government that's not quite so "evil".
Finally, what military do you plan on using to kick their ass? Not sure if you've noticed but we haven't even been able to win the 2 wars we already started.
First the United States CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and put in the Shah. Then when the people of Iran overthrew the Shah we supported Saddam Hussein in a war against them. So they are the evil ones?
This discussion isn't about Israel. The world doesn't revolve around Israel - and nor does America. so let's start with that.
Now consider this: When there's a terrorist incident - or even just a simple kidnapping or other situation where a perp takes a captive and has boarded himself up in a house and the police have the place surrounded outside... what happens?
Do the police 'refuse' to talk with the guy inside on the grounds that he is a bad guy? Or do they get an experienced hostage negotiator in to work things out?
It's perfectly clear that where there is a problem, either at the police level or in our personal lives - or internationally - if we take the "f*ck you, it's my way or the highway" attitude we are doomed to disaster.
Was the IRA conflict in Ireland solved by refusing to talk? No, Margaret Thatcher tried to play the bully and we just saw more bombs in the UK. It was only after years of talks that the terrorists finally layed down their arms.
So let's not allow smart thinking be the hostage here. Let's not let Israel or any other country try and force the U.S. to do its bidding by making us feel guilty; oooohhhh that Jewish guilt trip.
We can do better. Bush's policys of trying to bully his way around the world haven't worked - and they never will. Thank God, that juvenille pig-headedness about to change.
So ask yourself this:
DO YOU REALLY WANT PEACE - OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO BE RIGHT?
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Isreal has already launched aircraft with the BIG load. I believe they were going to blow Bagdad off the face of the earth. We talked them out of it by putting Patriots on statiion. You remember Patriots. So if Isreal is seriously attacked, that will be the end of it all. Should we talk with our enemies? Sure beats the hell out of the alternative. This has got to end, and it will, one way or the other.
"More contemporarily, consider Iran. From its first days it has dealt in deceit, declaring its readiness to sit on the negotiating table and accept international demands, then refusing to implement agreements"
I'm concerned with the conflation of a country looking out for it's own interests with the concept of true evil. By this metric America is truly evil, after all we demand others to accept international demands while we refuse to follow them. Will any of our officials be given up for trials in international courts over our authorized use of torture? Isn't torture evil and shouldn't we accept international demands?
I'd be very careful about setting up metrics to test for evil. You might catch yourself in the net.