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Anti-Abortionists' Claim to Being "Pro-Life" is a Classic Big Lie
- From Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights
By Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights - Advancing Objectivism
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Anti-abortion's big lie
Don't want an abortion? Fine. Don't have one. However, don't use government power to force everyone else to live by your biblical edicts. That is immoral. America isn't a democracy. It is a constitutionally- limited republic. That means the limits are on the government, not the people.
Today's conservatives hate America and America's founders, because they're incapable of living in a "free" society where everyone is capable of making choices for themselves.
Pro-life means pro Human life. Those that are already living. Not an embryo nor protoplasm.
- Secular Foxhole
September 3, 2008 7:28AM
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"Unencumbered by the facts"
So is a human in development, also known as an embryo or fetus, among other names depending upon point of development, not human? But they are. No real scientist or doctor would deny that. Well, are they not beings? Do they not exist? Are they not real? Are they not present? Then how can you physically remove the imaginary?
Now, to the middle part; the issue is about the rights of two human beings: a mother and a child. That's not even debatable since any doctor worth their degree must admit that the child is a living human being from the beginning. It's high school biology.
To the beginning, giving birth is not a sentence. It is a consequence, but a deserved one (as all true consequences are). And of course, being pro-life refers to the actual, real quality of life; not the whimsical, transitory one as in: 'get a life'; though we are pro-that as well.
Now, where the birth of a child actually threatens the actual life of the mother, almost no one believes abortion shouldn't be considered. But it still must be treated as any other killing.
Interestingly, in the Declaration of Independence, the three mentioned inalienable rights are listed in a peculiar order: almost as if there's a priority. [understated] For if one's happiness takes precedence over your property, right to speak freely, or even life, I can see why there might me a little mix up at the courthouse.
- JKM121
September 6, 2008 5:03PM
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A lie?
I don't think asking someone to assume responsibility for her actions is too much to ask. In the end, it only takes nine months to carry a child and give it up for adoption. You are saying it is OK to kill the child so that the mothers "life" isn't thrown away? Please -- Nine months of putting a kink in a social life is hardly comparable to being put to death by dismemberment. Abortion is being used by people as a way not to pay the piper. If you don't want children now, don't make them!
- Fr Fenton
October 8, 2008 7:33AM
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No one is pro-abortion.
There are three choices: birth control, babies , or abortion . For the pro-life side the first choice is babies. For the pro-choice side the first choice is birth control. Nobodies first choice is abortion.
- mike1948
August 6, 2009 10:13AM
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