Are People Born Gay?

Are People Born Gay?

The clash between gay activists and proponents of traditional society seem to grow more heated with every headline. While those in the gay and lesbian community insist that their way of life is perfectly natural and entitles them to equal rights, there are others who contend that the homosexual lifestyle is merely a choice that can be overcome, or even cured. Is same-sex interest a learned trait, or is it all in the genetic makeup?

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  • rjc3
    You should be embarrassed.

    This is supposed to be a rational debate about "nature vs nuture" in regard to homosexuality .

    You are claiming that nature has made people homosexual. Science is the proper method for explaining the natural world. Using annecdotal recollections as an argument should immediately disqualify you as an expert. This argument hurts your cause. You should be embarrassed to have posted this.

    - rjc3US June 3, 2009 11:50AM

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  • Hope7
    Lets recall this

    Jeffrey Curley-Age 10 when he was targetted and lured away from his front yard at his home by two practicing homosexual men who then brutally raped and killed him. They put a gasoline soaked rag in his mouth to keep him quiet. That was after they forced him to watch the NAMBLA web site of men having sex with little boys. He died from asphixiation. They also brutally raped him. His parents tried to sue NAMBLA but the ACLU was too much for them.

    Jason Shepherd story at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE .view&pageId=82111
    He was intentionally given a date rape drug and murdered by a practicing homosexual. Read about his tragic story.

    May 29, 2008

    Allen's parents, Joe and Marion, founded Hope for the Broken Heart after his tragic murder at the hands of his gay lover. They have spoken at Exodus International events.

    When Bart was struggling with unwanted homosexual feelings, he sought out a counselor for help. The counselor, however, told him he was born gay. According to Joe and Marion, "When Bart came out of her office, he looked like he had been given a death sentence. I know this lady did not realize what she was doing ... but she had told him he was born gay. She told him we were doing him an injustice by telling him this was wrong and he needed to go back [to the homosexual lifestyle].

    Bart Allen did go back to homosexuality , but he couldn't accept it. His lover, however, refused to accept the fact that Bart wanted to leave homosexuality behind. While Bart was asleep, his partner strangled him to death with a dog leash.

    Stephen Black- Harssement for being an EX-GAY.
    Stephen is an Oklahoman who has struggled with unwanted SSA. He doesn't like referring to himself as "ex-gay" but he confirms that there is growing evidence of widespread harassment of individuals who openly reject a gay identity.

    Jesse Dirkhising story at: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar ...TICLE_ID=29026 To brutal to tell you..read it for yourself. 13 yo boy bound, drugged and gagged and used as a sex toy for five long hours until he eventually died. The men who killed him said they did nothing wrong because they burned candles and played soothing music and it was all a love scene and they meant no harm. Too late for Jesse but not too late for other boys in this country!

    And the story of Mary Stachowicz:
    By Barbara Kralis

    Mary Stachowicz was willing to, and did, catechize the Word of God and she was brutally murdered for her beliefs. The hate crime was committed on November l3, 2002, the feast day of St. Frances Cabrini, virgin, first U.S. saint to be canonized.

    Mary, the gentle, devout 51 year old Catholic mother of four asked a Chicago homosexual man, Nicholas Gutierrez, 19, "Why do you want to have sex with boys instead of girls?" Gutierrez said she began to counsel him about his lack of good direction in life.

    The disordered Gutierrez confessed to the crime during a videotaped interrogation and explained he became furious when Stachowicz asked him the question. He then brutally punched and kicked Mary until he was exhausted; next, he mutilated her body with multiple stab wounds.

    While Mary was still alive, he shoved a garbage bag over her head, strangled her, and jammed her body into the crawl space under the floor of his Chicago apartment, which was above at the Sikorski Funeral Home where they both worked. The Funeral Home is right across the street from Mary's parish, where moments before she had received Holy Communion. Her mutilated body was discovered three days after she was slaughtered.

    Mrs. Mary Stachowicz, a Polish translator, was witnessing her well-formed Catholic conscience and was murdered for it. She performed the appropriate Spiritual Work of Mercy...instruct the ignorant, admonish the sinner.


    JOHN DOE-raped and killed by a practicing homosexual when he refused to have sex with him was beaten and thrown from a moving train 2-6-1980 between Yuba CITY, California and Live Oak at a place called LOMO CROSSING!

    ME GL -attacked at my home and later at college after witnessing John Does murder and writing letters to SACRAMENTO LEGISLATORS about a bill that would offer more protections to homosexual teachers and had my life threatened was told I would be put in jail if I spoke of this crime and was told my boys would be killed if I told about what they did to me, not including sexual harassment both hetero and homo...by two college professors at YUBA COLLEGE IN MARYSVILLE CALIFORNIA March 1988 Story at www.hope7.highpowersites.com and my book the CHOICE.

    - Hope7US June 16, 2009 9:58AM

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    • MrBook
      statistics?

      Considering the size of the US population, and the projected size of the Homosexual population within the US (1.2 million estimated in 2000, an increase from previous estimates), are those incidents statistically significant? How do those rates compare to the number of violent crimes committed by heterosexuals?

      - MrBookUS June 16, 2009 8:44PM

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      • Hope7
        True that serial rapists/murders are rare to begin with

        With a very high number 43% of all nationalities, countries, etc have this in common: HOMOSEXUALITY.

        http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html

        So even more alarming when you consider that if you took the TOP TEN serial rapist/murderers you would find that 8 out of the 10 are homosexuals.
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        Dr. Brian Clowes cited some alarming statistics showing that eight of the top ten serial killers in the United States were homosexuals and that homosexuals were responsible for 68 percent of all mass murders (Clowes:97).

        The following is a list of nine leading homosexual serial killers, eight of which were among the top ten most prolific killers as of 1992. Clowes’ sources are listed in the text and are reprinted from Debating the “Gay Rights” Issue:

        Donald Garvey: 37 Murders...[a] nurse’s aide [who] was convicted of 37 murders in Kentucky and Ohio. Psychologists testified that “Harvey said he was a homosexual.” The New York Times, August 20, and August 17th, 1991.

        John Wayne Gacy: 33 Murders...[a] professed homosexual ...who killed 33 young men and boys and buried them in his basement. The New York Times, February 22, 1980.

        Patrick Wayne Kearney: 32 Murders...The New York Times described him as “an acknowledged homosexual” and “...perpetrator of the ‘homosexual trash bag murders.’” The New York Times, July 27, 1977.

        Bruce Davis: 28 murders...killed 28 young men and boys after having sex with them. The New York Times, January 21, 1984.

        Corll, Henley and Brooks: 32 Murders. Dean Corll, Elmer Wayne Henley, and David Owen Brooks were the members of a Texas homosexual torture / murder ring that captured and mutilated 27 young men. The New York Times, July 27, 1974.

        Juan Corona: 25 Murders...an admitted homosexual, killed 25 male migrant workers. The New York Times, October 4, 1972.

        Jeffrey Dahmer: 17 Murders...a convicted child molester and practicing and admitted homosexual, lured 17 young men and boys to his apartment, had sex with them, then killed them and dismembered them. He ate parts of his victims bodies...Dahmer was active in “ gay rights ” organizations and had participated in “ gay pride ” parades. Michael C. Buelow.“Police Believe Suspect Killed 17.” The Oregonian, July 26, 1991, pages A1 and A24. Also:“Relative in Dahmer Case Sues.” USA Today, August 6, 1991, page 3A. Also October 1991 Focus on the Family Letter.

        Stephen Kraft: 16 Murders...killed at least 16 young men after drugging, sodomizing and torturing them. Robert L. Mauro.“The Nation’s Leading Serial Killers.” The Wanderer, October 31, 1991.

        William Bonin: 14 Murders...tortured and killed 14 young men...had sex with his victims before and after they died. Robert L. Mauro.“The Nation’s Leading Serial Killers.” The Wanderer, October 31, 1991.(Clowes:96)



        "No matter what you read when linking to the above site, it's all very disturbing. Steven Spielberg, GLAAD, NAMBLA, and the ACLU need to explain why they are insistent at being at the heart of pushing NAMBLA homosexuals onto the Boy Scouts. This is not about diversity. This is not about politically correctness. End quote Found at www.topix.com under pink swastika gay serial killers

        - Hope7US June 18, 2009 12:42PM

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      • Hope7
        Some other statistics

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502263/posts

        And I think we would all agree that to really understand what is going on here you have to analyse the criminal mind:

        http://www.scribd.com/doc/13073170/Analysis-of-the-Mind-of-Serial-Killers


        Most of these people were abused as children . Most homosexuals are abused as children. See the correlation. See WHY???? See why I speak out? I witnessed the murder of a 17 yo by a homosexual man I became a victim of the homosexual agenda in California. Now are you able to understand WHY I care to stop homosexuals from adopting children through ssm and why I try to get them out of the school curicullum?
        Just soooz were on the same page now.

        - Hope7US June 18, 2009 12:48PM

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  • truehappiness
    This story is wonderful. Good for him!

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    These circumstances made me a magnet for manipulation so at the age of 13 an older boy in my church sexually molested me. The feelings in my heart became a vortex of battling conflicts. I hated his touch and I longed for his touch. I hated liking his attention and I hated not having his attention.
    Over the next three years, I was forced to bear "Ray's" relentless obsession with me. Thankfully, we never had sex. When I finally left the church in disgust, I left home and plunged headlong into the gay lifestyle. The sight of men dancing with each other and publicly kissing made me feel so good. I felt like I was finally in a place where I belonged.

    In 1980, my first year of college I dove headlong into homosexuality and all it had to offer. I was new on the gay scene; soon everyone was asking who I was and who I was dating. I went to house parties, orgies, got hooked on "poppers" and started drinking. I was like a kid in a candy store with no parents around!

    In 1982, I hid my homosexuality so I could join the Army. I traveled all over the world and everywhere I could always find another man to have sex with. I went through periods of deep depression, when I felt so lonely I wanted to die. When I came out of my depression, I had to have sex to make me feel powerful and secure. I developed a hard attitude toward others, even my lovers. People existed to give me pleasure; when I was finished, I simply discarded them.
    At the height of my life as a gay man I felt invincible! No one could stop me, not even God. "I don't care if I go to hell!" I told God when I felt convicted about my sexuality. But I was still unhappy and unfulfilled. Thoughts tormented me that I now believe came from satan: You can find sex partners anytime you want, but none of them love you. It was an attempt to push me further along the path of self destruction. After years of homosexual sex in all its devaluing forms, I still felt unloved and worthless.
    That was over 14 years ago. Of course, there were many issues to confront as I started down the road to total healing. Healing was and is a process that I embrace with all my heart. God directed me to a church, where I stayed for five years, rising to become second assistant pastor.
    I was moving away from the residual issues of anger, hatred, and improper sexual passions. Yet I still had to deal with new challenges. Would I be accepted in the church? Would the men sense my homosexual past? Was I really free?
    Over the next few years, God proved his faithfulness by allowing me to build healthy relationships with godly men who loved me without prejudice. They didn't realize it, but God was using them to heal me of feelings of self-worthlessness.
    Eventually, I met a young woman who had begun attending the same church and we became friends. Over the next year, God confirmed in many ways that we belonged together. My passions changed and I knew God had created me to love a woman, not a man. Before I proposed to Dee, I told her about my past. "Honey" she responded, "if God has forgiven you, so do I." We were married and began our life together. Today, almost 12 years later that woman, Dee— is still my wife, and is still the most beautiful woman in the world. She’s the mother of my four children and the love of my life.
    END QUOTE
    http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/dlfoster.html

    - truehappinessUS October 1, 2009 5:19PM

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  • visavismeyou
    Anecdotal "evidence" is not actually evidence...

    The exploration and evolution of the libido is a confusing experience for everyone. No two people can talk about this subject and actually understand what the other person is talking about.

    I'm sorry, but I question the applicability of your evidence.

    - visavismeyouUS October 9, 2009 10:11PM

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